@Noor
I’m guessing all web-based jobs are saturated right now? I’d guess then freelance work would be the only option. The good thing about the crypto space is devs charge probably 10x more than it would otherwise, but the market has to be booming for work to be in demand.
@Kai
It’s not just web dev; it’s just programming jobs are hard to get right now. The market isn’t as good as it was a few years ago but will eventually get better. Regardless though, finding a remote job for your first one isn’t a likely thing. Many companies are actually going backwards on that nowadays. Most likely your job would be hybrid where you’d go to the office a couple of days a week. That’s why being willing to move is important when finding a job. The people who are have a lot more opportunities than the ones not willing to move to get their feet in the floor.
Freelancing is fine if you can get clients and experience. The thing is you’re going to need to learn a lot to get to that point. Web development isn’t a bunch of static websites to show a business much nowadays. People just do that shit with Wix and stuff. There’s a lot that goes into web development and programming. You really need to focus on learning how programming works so you can do whatever is asked of you.
The crypto space is an up and down space. It can also be super scummy too. You don’t want to be involved with a shady crypto project. That can completely ruin your reputation in the future. You don’t want your name attached to something that ends up being a scam. A lot of crypto projects end up like that.
Don’t do a boot camp. The market is oversaturated. You either need a degree or some really impressive personal projects. But everyone junior is struggling right now; it will take a lot of time and luck to get a job. When the market does swing around again, AI will have automated most of what boot camps teach you to do.
Now if you start coding against LLMs, you might land a gig if you network hard.
Would probably have an easier time working any other job and eventually transfer into their IT department if possible. Just raw applying on job listings is a lottery at this point.
I did a boot camp about 4 years ago and I don’t regret it only because it helped me learn how to self-teach after years and years of failing to do so. I am now a working engineer but what I learned in the boot camp is only a tiny part of what got me here.
I’m still in contact with most of my cohort and I’m the only one who got anywhere near professional dev work, but I also put in way more effort and kind of have an affinity for this stuff anyway and always have.
It took me forever to find work though and honestly I’m still not making what I should be and still on that grind to do what I really want to.
I was in a similar-sounding life position to you, so I figured I’d post my experience.
If I were doing it over now, I wouldn’t do a paid boot camp; I’d self-teach with the Odin project. You’ll learn the same things for free, and a boot camp certificate is honestly a negative on the resume, in my opinion.
Tl;dr: it was barely worth it 3-4 years ago when I did it; it’s definitely not in the current market, and there are enough extremely good free alternatives.
This specific podcast would give you great insight.
If it doesn’t load for you, it’s basically the latest syntax podcast with Wes Bos and Scott Tolinski.
Basically front end is oversaturated and there is a lot of interest in data languages (for example, Python) because of AI.
You’re going the wrong way, tbh. The tech world has gone on a rampant firing binge for the past several years. The talent pool is immense. You are competing with a massive amount of seasoned, jobless devs out there all trying to jump back in.
There’s a reason why everyone’s saying to go back into an actual trade job.
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Good idea… I may as well take some free courses on Coursera too if they’re helpful just to gain skills.
Drew said:
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Good idea… I may as well take some free courses on Coursera too if they’re helpful just to gain skills.
Honestly, people here are flexing on you with how many years of experience they got.
You might not get a job, but you can easily make websites nowadays—static or statically generated.
You can go to any company that doesn’t have a website and tell them, ‘Hey, I can make you a website for X amount of money.’
You can let them host the website on Cloudflare Pages for free; they just need to pay for the domain, which they will have to figure out.
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Good idea… I may as well take some free courses on Coursera too if they’re helpful just to gain skills.
Why? Just do CS50 x.
If you are just starting with web development then do it in your spare time. Once you have developed some skills and have some projects to showcase, then based on that you can find a full-time web developer job.
Yes, this is great advice; learning web development is “easy” but requires a lot of time. There are a lot of small, easy parts so you have to learn one step at a time.
Frankly, everyone and their mother wants to become a developer these days, and the market is super, super saturated. Bootcamps are becoming a thing of the past; there just isn’t that much need for junior devs anymore.
My advice? Unless you know someone who can just hand you a job, you’re going to have to gain skills and experience on the side. The market may change in the future and jobs may become more available, but it’s just not great right now.
Don’t spend money on a bootcamp.
We posted a job and received 500 applications on the first day. 90% of them are entry level. Everyone caught on to web development is enjoyable and gives you freedom. The industry is flooded. AI isn’t making the situation any better for entry-level devs either. I don’t recommend anyone to start this career.
Hey buddy, learning to code isn’t easy these days, which is why most remote companies don’t even prioritize diplomas. Focus on building a strong foundation in the fundamentals—mastering those will give you a real edge. After that, explore frameworks, but don’t limit yourself to just one programming language.
Learn an ERP platform. There are piles of unemployed SaaS developers out there, but there aren’t many Infor, SAP, or Oracle developers out there. I personally would go with Infor because they’re growing in the US, and companies are struggling to find onshore direct or consulting resources.
I wouldn’t bother with a bootcamp. Frankly, I think if you need one, you’re gonna struggle at the moment. The information is all there online for free; you don’t have to spend a penny.
I got into web development and SEO over the pandemic for local service businesses. I didn’t pay for training. Some of the work I do myself; some parts I outsource. I picked a business niche to focus on. I was able to replace my income, and now it’s starting to grow. DM me if you want to brainstorm. Businesses still need websites and SEO.