Alternatives to Laravel Forge and Digital Ocean (Non US based)

@Whitney
100% political. I’m willing to pay more to stop supporting American businesses.

I already canceled Netflix, Amazon Prime, and changed vacation plans from New York to Barcelona.

Ben said:
@Whitney
100% political. I’m willing to pay more to stop supporting American businesses.

I already canceled Netflix, Amazon Prime, and changed vacation plans from New York to Barcelona.

Fair enough, can’t argue we need more tech giants with European sovereignty, so it’s a win-win all around. The US gets to play their game by their rules, and we hopefully spawn a few more unicorns!

Ben said:
@Whitney
100% political. I’m willing to pay more to stop supporting American businesses.

I already canceled Netflix, Amazon Prime, and changed vacation plans from New York to Barcelona.

I was going to ask the reasoning behind ‘non-US based’, but I thought you were from the US… This makes a lot of sense, and good on you for speaking with your wallet.

I literally just exchanged pleasantries with some person who said tariffs were good, and they even admitted that households would likely face a ~$1800 increase, all so that domestic production would increase or something.

Laravel Forge isn’t a hosting platform; it is a deployment tool. You can still use custom server setups, so you can have hosting outside the states but still use Forge. I use AWS and a local data center in Australia.

So you’re still going to use Laravel? You know Laravel was created by an American, right? What about the web? The web was created by an American too. What about the internet as a whole?

Wait a minute… WTF are you doing here? Reddit was created by an American.

@Beryl
I don’t use Laravel. I use Laravel Forge for hosting. Hence the look at moving to another solution.

Also, it may not be possible to 100% stop using US-based companies, but I will do my best.

Ben said:
@Beryl
I don’t use Laravel. I use Laravel Forge for hosting. Hence the look at moving to another solution.

Also, it may not be possible to 100% stop using US-based companies, but I will do my best.

Look, don’t get me wrong - there are plenty of American companies that I refuse to ever give my money to. I get that. And I am no fan of Trump either. I think he’s a jackass. But he’s no different than a ton of rich New Yorkers. Been there. Seen it in person, decades ago. That’s just the way they are. But you just came across as ‘Boo hoo, orange man bad, I’m taking my toys and going home.’ Throwing anything and anyone American into the same bucket is NOT cool. It makes you part of the problem, not part of the solution.

The USA has a TON of issues, but they are almost entirely caused by the government, not by the people.

The response to this with ‘the people elected the government’ does not hold water because the people are given a choice: A or B. You have to look a lot further up the food chain to figure out who decided who was going to be A and who was going to be B. If you don’t believe that, look at who was the ‘choice’ for the Democratic party this past election. Tell me which ‘people’ voted for her to be the nominee.